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Picking the collective brain

Was chatting with [info - personal] renay about fandom stuff, and we got to wondering something that really requires the collective consciousness of fandom. So, have a poll.

Do you consider FFX and FFX-2 to be a single fandom or two separate fandoms?

One fandom
20(66.7%)
Two fandoms
10(33.3%)

FF.net splits FFX and FFX-2 into separate, unrelated categories. If you were to post a story including both FFX-only and X-2 only characters, which category would you put it in?

FFX
1(3.2%)
FFX-2
7(22.6%)
It depends on who the main character/pairing is
20(64.5%)
It depends on another factor which I will explain in comments
3(9.7%)

If you were in an archive with one category named FFX, would you expect to find and/or feel comfortable posting FFX-2 fic there?

Yes
23(74.2%)
No
6(19.4%)
It depends, and I will explain why in comments
2(6.5%)

If you were in an archive with one category named FFX/X-2, would you expect to find and/or feel comfortable posting FFX fic that disregards X-2 canon there?

Yes
28(90.3%)
No
3(9.7%)
It depends, and I will explain why in comments
0(0.0%)

Do you consider FFVII Compilation to be a single fandom or a collection of separate fandoms?

One fandom
17(56.7%)
Multiple fandoms
12(40.0%)
Something else which I will explain in comments
1(3.3%)

Do you consider "Ivalice Alliance" to be one fandom or multiple fandoms?

One fandom
4(13.3%)
Each game is a separate fandom
10(33.3%)
The XII games are one fandom and the Tactics games are another
10(33.3%)
The XII games are one fandom, but the Tactics games are separate fandoms
5(16.7%)
The Tactics games are one fandom, but the XII games are separate fandoms
0(0.0%)
Something else which I will explain in comments
1(3.3%)

Which of these fandoms do you consider yourself to be part of? (just for informational purposes)

Final Fantasy
2(6.5%)
FFVII (any or all)
1(3.2%)
FFX and/or FFX-2
2(6.5%)
FFXII (any or all)
0(0.0%)
FF Tactics (any or all)
0(0.0%)



Please spread this one far and wide; I want as broad a sampling as possible. Also, my standard disclaimer: I welcome open and honest discussion, but I request that you not flame FFX-2 in comments -- flawed or no, I happen to be quite fond of it, so if anyone comes out with the burning hatred, the conversation isn't going to get very far. Thanks.

Comments

auronlu
Oct. 18th, 2009 06:27 am (UTC)
I like Lassarina's idea of "Primary canon" and "extensions". Except when they're hair extensions.

Also I don't know anything about FFXII tactics and little to nothing about RW. So I'm not qualified to judge. Except from what I gather, RW is a sequel, so I think of it like X-2 and AC.

When the sequel games first came out, I'd put the sequels in a separate category for all those folks who haven't played them or are of two minds about whether they fit. As time goes on and less is being written for older fandoms, I say fuse 'em, and just indicate in summary or characters whether it's "classic" mode (the original game) or "extended edition".

I've gotten more used to X2 as an extension of FFX. Originally I might've viewed them as separate fandoms.
owlmoose
Oct. 18th, 2009 07:19 am (UTC)
Interesting point, for sure, that these things may change over time. I wonder, for example, if we see the FFVII fandom mellow out on this score once new material stops appearing. (If it ever does...)

Personally I have always thought of it as one canon, and I was surprised to find two separate categories on FF.net. I never cross-posted DSHnD to The Pit for a few reasons, but my major issue was having no idea where to put it.
auronlu
Oct. 18th, 2009 11:09 am (UTC)
I was naughty with LHAD for a while: I'd post it in FFX for a while, then switch it to FFX-2 to grab those fans when I started adding in the Crimson Squad, but now I've settled it in FFX for good. As time goes on, I'm starting to see more X-2 stuff appearing in the FFX category for the same reason.

I tried to make sure I mentioned Baralai in my summary to make it clear I've got a few X2 characters in secondary roles, but it's hard to cram in a cast list in a 240 char summary.
owlmoose
Oct. 19th, 2009 02:42 am (UTC)
I think LHAD fits much more as FFX, given that it goes AU before most of the events of X-2, and the primary characters (Auron, Lulu, and Isaaru) are much more connected with FFX, and that's where I would have put it, based on the "main characters/pairings" rubric.
lassarina
Oct. 18th, 2009 02:07 pm (UTC)
If you like the layered politics sort of thing in FFXII, you would very likely enjoy Final Fantasy Tactics: the War of the Lions, whose plot and characters were designed by the same guy (Matsuno, who also did Vagrant Story.) It's a grid-based strategic game (no button mashing whatsoever) and even if you suck at strategy like I do, it is totally possible to level grind until all the plot battles roll over and beg for mercy.

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