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Picking the collective brain

Was chatting with [info - personal] renay about fandom stuff, and we got to wondering something that really requires the collective consciousness of fandom. So, have a poll.

Do you consider FFX and FFX-2 to be a single fandom or two separate fandoms?

One fandom
20(66.7%)
Two fandoms
10(33.3%)

FF.net splits FFX and FFX-2 into separate, unrelated categories. If you were to post a story including both FFX-only and X-2 only characters, which category would you put it in?

FFX
1(3.2%)
FFX-2
7(22.6%)
It depends on who the main character/pairing is
20(64.5%)
It depends on another factor which I will explain in comments
3(9.7%)

If you were in an archive with one category named FFX, would you expect to find and/or feel comfortable posting FFX-2 fic there?

Yes
23(74.2%)
No
6(19.4%)
It depends, and I will explain why in comments
2(6.5%)

If you were in an archive with one category named FFX/X-2, would you expect to find and/or feel comfortable posting FFX fic that disregards X-2 canon there?

Yes
28(90.3%)
No
3(9.7%)
It depends, and I will explain why in comments
0(0.0%)

Do you consider FFVII Compilation to be a single fandom or a collection of separate fandoms?

One fandom
17(56.7%)
Multiple fandoms
12(40.0%)
Something else which I will explain in comments
1(3.3%)

Do you consider "Ivalice Alliance" to be one fandom or multiple fandoms?

One fandom
4(13.3%)
Each game is a separate fandom
10(33.3%)
The XII games are one fandom and the Tactics games are another
10(33.3%)
The XII games are one fandom, but the Tactics games are separate fandoms
5(16.7%)
The Tactics games are one fandom, but the XII games are separate fandoms
0(0.0%)
Something else which I will explain in comments
1(3.3%)

Which of these fandoms do you consider yourself to be part of? (just for informational purposes)

Final Fantasy
2(6.5%)
FFVII (any or all)
1(3.2%)
FFX and/or FFX-2
2(6.5%)
FFXII (any or all)
0(0.0%)
FF Tactics (any or all)
0(0.0%)



Please spread this one far and wide; I want as broad a sampling as possible. Also, my standard disclaimer: I welcome open and honest discussion, but I request that you not flame FFX-2 in comments -- flawed or no, I happen to be quite fond of it, so if anyone comes out with the burning hatred, the conversation isn't going to get very far. Thanks.

Comments

first_seventhe
Oct. 19th, 2009 12:46 pm (UTC)
For me, part of it is (a) spoiler-related and (b) expectation -- can you reasonably expect, in general, that people who played the first central game might have played the second? Example: FFX and FFX-2 are on the same system; people who played X have a fairly good chance of being familiar with X-2. FFVII: OGC is in one format; its Compilation ingredients are in others (AC is a movie, there's that PSP game and that weird cell phone game and I just can't keep up with them but I hope I've explained it).

That being said, I actually do still think of X and X-2 as separate games, which is why I marked them as such in the poll. Probably because there was so much time in-between when I played them that I still mentally consider them separate entities.
justira
Oct. 19th, 2009 06:50 pm (UTC)
Aha! You have hit upon one of the points I have been edging around but not sure how to articulate, and you said it exactly right -- it's about expectations. For sequels and compilations, can you expect people to have played/seen the original? How accessible are other parts of the compilation/umbrella fandom to people who've only had experience with one of its titles?

I think it's an important factor, though definitely not the only one. It's why I keep getting the feeling that, for example, X and X-2 are "closer together" than XII and XII:RW. The FFVII Compilation fandoms, though, jesus. The thing with those is that the overall fan following is so strong that people will GET the other (major) installments anyway.
owlmoose
Oct. 20th, 2009 04:31 am (UTC)
Nay and I were actually talking about the platform issue last night. It hadn't occurred to me that the disparity of platforms would leads to more people only playing one of the games, but of course it makes sense. This is definitely the case for Compilation and FFXII/RW, and I think to a certain extent for the Tactics games as well? There are people who have played X-2 and not FFX, but not nearly as many. Same platform, same genre, marketed as a direct sequel (which RW was not).

I wonder if there is a distinction to be made between separate fandoms and separate canons.

justira
Oct. 20th, 2009 02:22 pm (UTC)
CURSE YOU KJ because in my tl;dr comment I have been picking away at for a while I was going to specifically bring up separate fandoms vs. separate canons GR GR GR it was going to sound so DEEP AND ORIGINAL and now you have STOLEN MY THUNDER

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