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Picking the collective brain

Was chatting with [info - personal] renay about fandom stuff, and we got to wondering something that really requires the collective consciousness of fandom. So, have a poll.

Do you consider FFX and FFX-2 to be a single fandom or two separate fandoms?

One fandom
20(66.7%)
Two fandoms
10(33.3%)

FF.net splits FFX and FFX-2 into separate, unrelated categories. If you were to post a story including both FFX-only and X-2 only characters, which category would you put it in?

FFX
1(3.2%)
FFX-2
7(22.6%)
It depends on who the main character/pairing is
20(64.5%)
It depends on another factor which I will explain in comments
3(9.7%)

If you were in an archive with one category named FFX, would you expect to find and/or feel comfortable posting FFX-2 fic there?

Yes
23(74.2%)
No
6(19.4%)
It depends, and I will explain why in comments
2(6.5%)

If you were in an archive with one category named FFX/X-2, would you expect to find and/or feel comfortable posting FFX fic that disregards X-2 canon there?

Yes
28(90.3%)
No
3(9.7%)
It depends, and I will explain why in comments
0(0.0%)

Do you consider FFVII Compilation to be a single fandom or a collection of separate fandoms?

One fandom
17(56.7%)
Multiple fandoms
12(40.0%)
Something else which I will explain in comments
1(3.3%)

Do you consider "Ivalice Alliance" to be one fandom or multiple fandoms?

One fandom
4(13.3%)
Each game is a separate fandom
10(33.3%)
The XII games are one fandom and the Tactics games are another
10(33.3%)
The XII games are one fandom, but the Tactics games are separate fandoms
5(16.7%)
The Tactics games are one fandom, but the XII games are separate fandoms
0(0.0%)
Something else which I will explain in comments
1(3.3%)

Which of these fandoms do you consider yourself to be part of? (just for informational purposes)

Final Fantasy
2(6.5%)
FFVII (any or all)
1(3.2%)
FFX and/or FFX-2
2(6.5%)
FFXII (any or all)
0(0.0%)
FF Tactics (any or all)
0(0.0%)



Please spread this one far and wide; I want as broad a sampling as possible. Also, my standard disclaimer: I welcome open and honest discussion, but I request that you not flame FFX-2 in comments -- flawed or no, I happen to be quite fond of it, so if anyone comes out with the burning hatred, the conversation isn't going to get very far. Thanks.

Comments

venefica_aura
Oct. 20th, 2009 09:21 am (UTC)
As one of those FFVIIers that actually likes bits of the Compilation, and goes willy nilly with canon because of that. I have a tendency of taking Compilation characters and sticking them under mostly OCG settings/rules/storylines.

Because of this, I sometimes write FFX canon rules stories and throw in a couple FFX-2ers I liked.

I think FFX/X-2 is closer to being just, well, one fandom, but FFVII hasn't been a single fandom since AC came out and didn't settle whether or not Cloud was supposed to be with Aeris, Tifa, Sephiroth, Barret, or a chocobo. Plus there are a lot of kids that have seen the movie, or played Crisis Core, but know nothing about the original game.

Which means I have a lot of fun, basically. XD I really do like big fandoms mostly because I can have a little corner and write what I want.
heyheyrenay
Oct. 20th, 2009 04:37 pm (UTC)
Ooh, then I could totally ask you this and get a really good answer, I bet.

If an archive had an FFVII category called "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII" with all the games, including Final Fantasy VII under it as subcategories, would that be okay? I pretty much agree with you about FFVII not exactly being the same fandom anymore depending on which fanbase you're talking about.

(Also, he should've ended up with Barret.)
venefica_aura
Oct. 20th, 2009 04:55 pm (UTC)
It'd be a good category for those that like to pick-and-choose; then they could specify which parts they actually follow and which they don't (like using Shalua from DoC but not wanting to touch Hojo's 2-D characterization or the sheer comedy of the epic romance). Because there are old school fans that like bits and follow some things but not others but don't want to be arsed changing the timeline (BC is notorious for this; the timeline of that fucks will all other perceived timelines, but it also has some of the better consistent characterizations in reference to the original game).

However, that would only be a good category if there are separate ones, at the very least a separate OGC category, for those that just disregard anything new.

But a Compilation category without OGC at all would be silly, as despite the silliness or retcon or whatever of the other parts, they still reference this first canon. It's funny, the other parts of the Compilation are a bit like fanfiction--especially considering how late they were released after the first game and that the same writers/composers weren't on the team. Leaves a real unique situation.

My girlfriend runs her FFVII archive on sort of a "check as many Compilation ticky boxes as you feel it fits" method. Works pretty well.

Hope that was a good enough answer?

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